How to tell whether a setter is good or not in men's volleyball?

brave07124

How can we decide whether a setter is good or not?

For example, in Trentino, Lukas Zygadlo used to be a substitue for Raphael. However, Lukas Zygadlo was playing as a substitue  setter for Polish Natioanl Team and in 2011 and 2012 even as a starting setter. On the other hand, Raphael didn't even get to play for Brazil a lot. I understand that Brazil is probably stronger than Poland in volleyball. But I didn't expect the gap in setter level to be that huge; besides, Lukas Zygadlo had earned the best setter title on club level and natioanl level.

Also, I had an impression that people here tend to think Sergey Grankin, Russian starting setter, is not good. However, the Russian coach still choose Seregey Grankin to be the starting setter rather than Aleksandr Butko, who was the starting setter of Russia in World Cup 2011.

I believe there are both subjective and objective criteria on deciding whetehr a setter is good or not. And I understand the divergent opinions on setters are the result of the subjective criteria. However, I have no idea what the objective criteria are. Anyone knows?

(Please forgive me for using English, I can for sure use Chinese, but it would take me like 1 hour to type these in Chinese; sorry for the potential inconvenience caused)

dboy

Rafael不是西班牙的吗？

伴鹤

其实用人问题的确很让人纠结
但是实践是检验真理的标准，通过具体比赛的考察，可以看出不同队员究竟哪个更适合队伍
现实也是这样，通过大赛前各种比赛来决定队伍的主打人员

譬如强力接应和跑动接应，上个周期大家一直在争执，实践证明，中国女排还是要走跑动路线

伴鹤

二传问题，考虑的因素实在太多
一个好的二传，除了要有最扎实的基本功，还要有很多软实力：智力，观察力，应变能力，沉稳的气质，领袖风范太多太多
当然现在的二传除了传球这儿，还要求拦网实力就更难了

觉得好二传就是球场上的艺术家

飒飒谷风

dboy 发表于 2012-12-22 07:54

                               
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Rafael不是西班牙的吗？

显然巴西的，他是跟铁拐有矛盾不想进队吧。

dboy

飒飒谷风 发表于 2012-12-22 09:23

                               
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显然巴西的，他是跟铁拐有矛盾不想进队吧。

我是从坛子上听说他是西班牙的，原来是巴西的阿，不喜欢他和特伦蒂诺。

lienmalian

伴鹤 发表于 2012-12-22 08:30

                               
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二传问题，考虑的因素实在太多
一个好的二传，除了要有最扎实的基本功，还要有很多软实力：智力，观察力， ...

个人觉得二传相当于足球场上的中场调度师，可以在不经意间传出手术刀一般精准的传球，置对手于死地。

渡轮

A setter is never good or bad. No one is that black or white, or they would never be selected as professional. Also, considering their akward dilemma in the gray area, we find it reasonable that they never cease to improve.
    I guess, a "better" setter is the one capable of creating more chances to score for hitters, activating all slots in the team from serve to spike and prolonging to block and defence. S/he per se must be great at defence as well. It will be more appreciated if a setter can score with h/er own while the ball is obviously free or hard to re-adjust.

Matt

哎呀
Grankin
多惹人爱的二传。。。

弟子规

欧洲联赛吧？照片很清晰

萨沙

dboy 发表于 2012-12-22 12:43

                               
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我是从坛子上听说他是西班牙的，原来是巴西的阿，不喜欢他和特伦蒂诺。

我还以为你是看到Rafael 就联想到了--我神，所以认为是板鸭队的。。。{:soso_e141:}

博学笃志

Matt 发表于 2012-12-22 14:16

                               
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哎呀
Grankin
多惹人爱的二传。。。

我觉得Grankin可能倾向于传两边拉开的球，Butko更倾向于与用副攻手进攻。
对着后来打奥运会，半决赛用Butko中路突破效果好些；
决赛换阵后，让Grankin传两翼进攻效果更好！