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【回顾】Interviews

1. Rodrigo Quiroga on 2011.6.8

The captain of the young squad is Rodrigo Quiroga, with just 24 yearsold. This is not a new role for him, considering its passage through the youthand junior national team, although it is worth noting that in the age when manykids think "dancing in clubs", he has a great responsibility. In2008, when coach Weber took over the national team, had the challenge ofleading a group that was composed of older and more experienced players, "The first year, Spajic and Meana gave me a big hand. I had a very goodrelationship also with Guillermo Garcia too. The truth is that it was notdifficult, just different, because they were older players" he said.

Argentina complete the generational change at the 2010 World Championship inItaly and Quiroga´s GPS must to recalculate: "This is a new cycle and, luckily, I grabbed a couple of years ofexperience in the role. That makes things a bit easier, but it is not verycomplicated. Both those steps are very nice" commentedthe member of a traditional volleyball family.

Raul's nephew (World and Olympic Bronze Medal), son of Daniel (former Italy A2series player) and brother of Gonzalo (star of youth argentine team), Rodrigodoes not deny the family relationship and believes that no new sportingachievement will overshadow those earned by their ancestors: "I don’t take it as a weight, I think that helps me. Not because me orNicolas (Uriarte), Facundo (Conte) or Ivan (Castellani) are big players, whatdid our parents or uncles will be forgotten. They are different stories thatare related and I think it will be impossible unstuck them. It makes me veryhappy to be part of a family that created a bit of the history of this sport."

In an era where idols are getting younger (by case, Messi is 23),Rodrigo manages the group with ease and without overacting his role: "I do not put limits on the Playstation in concentration. These thingsform the group and do well. I believe I can do no harm to anyone. I have it(Video game) but I do not like soccer games".

Quiroga knows thisseason may be one of the most important of his career. He played Greek LeagueFinals with Iraklis (won the regular season, qualified for the Champions butcould not lift the cup) and he will return to Italy through the front door (inRavenna) and seek to win the passport to London 2012: "It would get me thenail that I have of Beijing 2008 (Argentina did not play). It's a dream for allto be in an Olympic game."

2. Interview with Luciano De Cecco on 2011.11.20 after the match with Serbia in WC

- Congratulations for your victory. Every element in your team worked well, even if you are training together not for  along time. Some players joined the team just a few days ago.

Luciano De Cecco:  Thank you. that is true, only part of them team have trained in Parma in Italy, but it doesn't really matter for us. We play together for many years, so now we are trying just to stabilize our game. For me we have played today a perfect match, quick, good volleyball, we did great job on serve and block.

(...)

- During the World League I was talking with your coach and he mentioned that you don't put any pressure on yourself about score before any tournament. Did you change it now, when you have experienced few more big tournaments?

We treat every tournament in the same way. We don't have a goal, no pressure, we want to play good and enjoy the volleyball. Maybe we won't qualify for Olympics here on World Cup, but then we have to more chances, that's why we are relaxed and we just want to have fun during the game. Maybe for medal, if not, that's ok.

[For a full reading: http://www.volleyball-movies.net/fanclubs/discussion/luciano-de-cecco-we-are-here-to-enjoy-the-volleyball-253]

3. Interview with Federico Pereyra on 2011.11.25

You play now in brazilian league, but this is not your first foreign league. You have played before in Europe, so you have seen many leagues in your quite short career.

That's true, I played in greece when I was 17 years old, then I played in Spain. I came back to Argentina, to play in Drean Bolivar, but I felt time for changes came and I choose brazilian league.

It will be the strongest league from all you played in.

I'm happy that I will play there, my club is strong, has a good team and for me personally it will be test of my level and great chance to improve.

[For a full reading: http://www.volleyball-movies.net/fanclubs/discussion/federico-pereyra-this-an-important-victory-after-loss-with-poland-262]

                               
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简要概述一下这三篇采访的内容吧，就不逐字翻译了。

第一篇是关于Rodrigo Quiroga的。Rodrigo觉得自己是赶上了一个大好的时机（指年轻的阿根廷队），而且自身在早些年轻就已经开始在意大利打球了，积累了很多比赛经验。Rodrigo来自一个排球世家。他是Rual Quiroga的侄子（Rual是阿根廷队获得世锦赛和奥运会铜牌时的主力队员），他是Daniel Quiroga的儿子（Daniel曾在意大利A2级别赛事中效力），他的弟弟Gonzalo是现在阿根廷球队的明星球员。（有这么强大的家庭构架，自然得到的机会比其他排球运动员多，但是啊但是，今年世界杯真的是赔了不少钱的说。）Rodrigo说：“来自这样的一个排球世家对我来说并不是一种负担，和Nicholas, Facu, Ivan 一样，我的父亲也是著名的排球运动员，想要脱开来自家庭的影响是不可能的。我们的父辈们现在仅是一个个故事了。但我很高兴能是这样一个家族的一员，能为家族的排球史续写一小段历史。” 他还说：“去London奥运会是他们的一个梦想。”

第二个是世界杯赛时对Luciano De Cecco的采访
De Cecco说，虽然世界杯赛上的这只阿根廷队仅有一部分队员参加过国家队集训，但并不影响他们的发挥，因为他们以前一直都有在一起打球，彼此间也颇为熟悉。这次世界杯他们没有确定什么目标，就只是尽量去打好每一场球，尽情趣享受每一场比赛。如果能直接去伦敦奥运会最好，去不了的话，他们的机会还是很多。

第三个是对Pereyra的采访。
Pereyra也很早就开始在国外打球了。17岁的时候在希腊打球。然后去了西班牙。上个赛季回到阿根廷Bolivar效力。这个赛季他去巴西联赛磨练去了。

                               
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飒飒谷风

Rodrigo的身份这么多啊。
确实，看rodrigo，facu和ivan一起打球是非常有意思的组合。
那个替补二传也是排二代么？

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飒飒谷风 发表于 2011-12-12 16:35

                               
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Rodrigo的身份这么多啊。
确实，看rodrigo，facu和ivan一起打球是非常有意思的组合。
那个替补二传也是排 ...

Rodrigo算是来自一个很庞大的排球世家了，说不定以后还能见到他老弟。

Nicolas Uriarte是Jon Uriarte的儿子。他老爸也在意大利执教。
"Their[Argentina's] roster is young and inexperienced with Nicolas Uriarte and Facundo Conte following the steps of their respective fathers Jon and Hugo, real Volleyball stars of the ‘80s. Castellani’s son is currently playing for the Argentinean junior national team, so in the near future they may cross their ways. “I’ll be coaching the Polish national team up to the 2012 Olympics in London,” concludes Castellani, so this a story to be continued."[part of a news item in 2010]

然后伊朗的主教练Julio Velasco在世界杯接受采访的时候也提到过他：
Now when you see your players who are coaches, for example Anastasi who works with Poland or Bernardi who starting succeed with his club, what do you feel?

I'm very proud. We keep contact, we talk a lot and sometimes they ask me for some tips about coaching. They will be always my players and I'm happy that they are doing great. But not only Italians, also Catsellani or Uriarte, who are coaches too. On the last World Championships we could see 5 coaches from Argentina and this fact should make Argentine feel proud and in case of Andrea and Lorenzo also Italy. It's very nice to see their successes with European teams.

What do you think about your countryman, team Argentina? You mentioned Castellani and Uriarte and those players are working with Weber. Also league in Argentina is growing, new, better sponsors joining this sport. Volleyball in your country is getting better.

National team is now a group of very good, young players. Some of them are very, very good, for example De Cecco is amazing already. I like also Conte, Quiroga, Sole, Uriarte. But they are not all our talents, we have even younger and talented players. I think this team will be ready for London, they will qualify for sure and on next World Championships they will be main favorites. I like their style of play, they are playing intelligent, despite the age.


So is it possible that in London we will see together with Argentina also Iran?

I think that we can do it. It won't be easy, because World Cup is tough tournament and another chance for us is only intercontinental tournament in June. This is very weird situation, because Asia has no continental tournament like Europa or both Americas. Why is that? We should ask FIVB. We will try to qualify, but it's going to be a difficult task.

Weber在今年世界男排联赛的时候带了Nicholas，世界杯就没带他了。也怪可怜见的。1990年的，又偏偏与De Cecco同时代了。

PS：阿根廷籍的教练好像都满世界跑，遍地都是。他们真心是热爱排球啊。

飒飒谷风

表示已经见过Rodrigo的小弟了，但是还是太小了，93年的打成人赛太吃亏了，泛美赛的时候打了几场。
于是阿根廷遍地都是希望之星，我这个90的一下子就成老人家了，这让我非常不爽。

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飒飒谷风 发表于 2011-12-12 20:14

                               
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表示已经见过Rodrigo的小弟了，但是还是太小了，93年的打成人赛太吃亏了，泛美赛的时候打了几场。
于是阿根 ...

Alas, time is never fair even they say it is.
我是在你家小雷子刚出道时。一翻他的简历。顿时容颜散尽。衰草枯藤了。

飒飒谷风

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Alas, time is never fair even they say it is.
我是在你家小雷子刚出道时。一翻他的简历。顿时容颜散尽 ...

现在不敢随便看小队员资料，遍地都是枪，浑身都是伤。
上次看到JW粉嫩的小接应，一看资料尼玛91年的。。

飒飒谷风

一影 发表于 2011-12-12 20:29

                               
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Alas, time is never fair even they say it is.
我是在你家小雷子刚出道时。一翻他的简历。顿时容颜散尽 ...

现在不敢随便看小队员资料，遍地都是枪，浑身都是伤。
上次看到JW粉嫩的小接应，一看资料尼玛91年的。。

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2011年12月10日 阿根廷冠军联赛（ACLAV Cup）开始进入常规赛Final 6的比赛阶段。根据上一个阶段的积分排名，进入前六的六支队伍分别是UPCN Voley, La Union de Formosa, Drean Bolivar, Buenos Aires Unidos, Catamarca Voley 和 MSM Bella Vista。六支队伍分成两组打小组循环。
Zone 1: UPCN Voley, Buenos Aires Unidos, Catamarca Voley
Zone 2:  La Union de Formosa, Drean Bolivar, MSM Bella Vista
每个小组的前两名出线。然后交叉淘汰赛。然后12月15号最终决赛。

12月11日比赛结果：
Zone1: UPCN Voley Club vs. Catamarca Voley 3-1 (21-25, 25-19, 25-23, 25-11)
Zone2: La Unión de Formosa vs. MSM - Bella Vista 3-0 (25-19, 25-20, 25-17)

12月12日：
Zone1: Catamarca Voley vs. Buenos Aires Unidos 1-3 (20-25, 24-26, 25-20, 24-26)
Zone2: MSM - Bella Vista vs. Drean Bolívar 0-3 (23-25, 23-25, 15-25)

12月13日对阵：
Zone1: Buenos Aires Unidos vs. UPCN Voley Club 0-3 (24-26, 21-25, 22-25)
Zone2: Drean Bolívar vs. La Unión de Formosa 2-3 (26-24, 25-19, 23-25, 20-25, 8-15)

国家队的队员都已经归队。今日这一仗都是强强对话，决定小组出线名次。

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Final Six各队主力名单(二传-接应；副攻；主攻；自由人)

Drean Bolívar: Thiago Gelinski – Evandro Guerra; Pablo Crer – Sebastián Solé; Javier Filardi– Vladimir Jekic; Franco López (L).

Buenos Aires Unidos:   Juan Ignacio Finoli-Marcos Milinkovic, André Radtke-Ihosvany Hernández, Mariano Giustiniano-Bruno Vinti. Martín Meana (L).

UPCN Voley: Demián González-Diego Bonini, Junior-Gustavo Molina, Aleksandar Mitrovic-Bogdan Olteanu; Sebastián Garrocq (L)

La Unión de Formosa: Maximiliano Cavanna-Gustavo Scholtis, Alejandro Spajic-Javier Sánchez, Lucas Ocampo-Leonardo Patti. Franco Massimino (L).

MSM Bella Vista: Lucas Letamendia - Santiago Darraidou, Iván Postemsky - Ignacio Condotta, Martín Portillo - Nicolás Méndez; Diego Velázquez (L).

Catamarca Vóley: Juan Ignacio Macció-Renato Da Silva, Franco Trefs-Diego Stepanenko, Jorge Silva Blanco-Everaldo.  Ignacio Forastiero (L).

飒飒谷风

http://www.fivb.org/viewPressRelease.asp?No=33375&Language=en
FIVB公布了南美预选赛的新闻了，除了阿根廷，还有委内瑞拉、哥伦比亚和智利。

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飒飒谷风 发表于 2011-12-13 18:32

                               
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http://www.fivb.org/viewPressRelease.asp?No=33375&Language=en
FIVB公布了南美预选赛的新闻了，除了阿根 ...

恩的，卿，前几天已经在1楼更新了的说，Feva给的消息早些。

ARG只要稍稍提防下委内瑞拉就应该不成问题。
秘鲁男排曾经很强悍？

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Copa Argentina Final Six半决赛对阵：

La Unión de Formosa vs. Buenos Aires Unidos 3-1 (25-15, 21-25, 25-20, 25-17)
UPCN Voley Club vs. Drean Bolívar 2-3 (19-25, 26-24, 25-19, 18-25, 10-15)

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La Unión de Formosa对Buenos Aires Unidos的比赛：
第一局开局La Unión de Formosa凭借Gustavo Scholtis和Leonardo Patti两个精彩的拦网将比分拉至8-1. 之后他们的进攻屡屡奏效，轻松拿下第一局。
第二局Buenos Aires Unidos由Bruno Vinti和Milinkovic展开反击，冲垮对手的防线，以16-14领先进入第二次技术暂停。后半段Formosa的Lucas Ocampo开始发飙，一度将比分追至20-21，但Buenos Aires Unidos以出色的一攻拿下第二局。
第三局Buenos Aires Unidos的开局非常好。Bruno Vinti发球开始发威(三个接飞，一个Ace)，使得球队以8-5进入第一次技术暂停。但后来Formasa凭借Milinkovic的一次失误和副攻Javier Sánchez的进攻将比分追至9-10.之后Buenos Aires Unidos越打越没有耐心，20-25又交了这一局。
第四局Unidos失误频频，Formasa稳扎稳打，没给任何机会，以25-17斩落Unidos，连续两年进入决赛。他们的对手是在小组赛以2-3击败过得Drean Bolivar

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Drean Bolivar对UPCN Voley的比赛:
第一局Bolivar的接应Evandor手感就超好，将比分拉至12-9.但UPCN的接应Bonini也不示弱，他和主攻Olteanu将比分追至13平，以14-16的比分进入第二次技术暂停。下半段Sole和Crer拦网开始见效，比分一直咬到19-18.之后UPCN就没有多少机会了。Bolivar的主攻Jekic三次反击和Sole的拦网最终将比分锁定在25-19.
第二局UPCN由Bonini和Olteanu开始反击，Bolivar的一传出现问题，UPCN以8-5领先。中段比赛，Bolivar靠Evandor来咬住比分，但UPCN稳住一攻，依旧以16-13领先。这场对决其实可以说是两个接应的对决。后半段的比赛中，Evandor以三个强力发球使得Bolivar以21-18超出。但UPCN没有放弃，Olteanu的拦网将比分扳平至22-22. 随后至24-24平。但Bolivar的进攻势不可挡，26-24再下一城。
第三局和第四局，UPCN背水一战。第三局是Bonini的个人表演赛。以他的一记ACE发球25-19拿下比赛。第四局UPCN的攻势依旧犀利，但Bolivar在沉静一局之后开始苏醒，Sole和Evandor开始找回手感。
决胜局中Bolivar一直领先，8-5交换场地，期间UPCN还和裁判交涉，被裁判警告。Jekic和Evandor没有给UPCN翻身的机会。15-10拿下比赛，进入今年的决赛。

（全场比赛Bolivar的接应Evandor狂砍29分，遥遥领先于UPCN的接应Bonini的21分。）

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12月15日： Copa Argentina Final Six决赛对阵：
（北京时间11:08 阿根廷时间00:04 2011年阿根廷男排联赛决赛结束）
Drean Bolivar vs. La Unión de Formosa 1:3 (22:-25, 25-20, 22-25, 29-25)
看了比分直播。Formosa基本是压着Bolivar打的。赢的三局一直都保持3分得领先优势。
等待官方报道中...

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2011年阿根廷男排联赛Final Six落下帷幕。La Union de Formosa以3:1战胜Drean Bolivar,这也是Formosa有史以来第一获得该项赛事的冠军。主攻Leonardo Patti,前阿根廷国家队队员，获得MVP；接应Gustavo Scholtis斩获全场最高得分20分。（常规赛第一轮结束后的La Union de Formosa在此前的积分排名为第二；Drean Bolivar在多名主力随国家队出征世界杯的情况下仍在积分榜上排名第四）

Final Six 最终排名
1. La Union de Formosa
2. Drean Bolivar
3. UPCN Voley
4. Buenos Aires Unidos

飒飒谷风

男排版最近好冷清。。。
话说前天看了两场欧冠比赛，都不想写球评。。。

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飒飒谷风 发表于 2011-12-16 18:08

                               
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男排版最近好冷清。。。
话说前天看了两场欧冠比赛，都不想写球评。。。

Well, my dear friend, I take it as a kind of homework of my own. If it benefits anyone, my way is justified; if not, I shall plod on alone still. Indifference wanes enthusiasm but it hinders not mine.

真想写的时候就会写出来的。不想写的话。就莫强求咯。Let it be then.

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意大利A1联赛10轮过后
Luciano和Facu所在的Monza积分16分排在第6位；
Rodrigo所在的Ravenna和Sabastian Creus在的San Giustino分列倒数一二。



FECHA 10 (18/12/2011)
Monza - San Giustino 3-2 (28-26, 25-16, 15-25, 23-25, 15-11)
M: Luciano De Cecco 4 , Facundo Conte 10
SG: Sebastián Creus 10
【Facu首次上场就遇上了老东家。解约才不到两个星期呢。】

Ravenna - M. Roma Volley 1-3 (25-22, 26-28, 23-25, 22-25)
Ravenna: Rodrigo Quiroga 13


FECHA 9 (11/12/2011)
Copra Piacenza - CMC Ravenna 0-3 (23-25, 18-25, 17-25)
R: Rodrigo Quiroga 13

Macerata - Monza 3-2 (25-23, 25-21, 21-25, 23-25, 15-10) P2
Monza: Luciano De Cecco 6 , Facundo (未上场)

San Giustino - Marmi Lanza Verona 1-3 (22-25, 21-25, 25-21, 25-27)  
SG: Sebastián Creus 10


FECHA 8 (08/12/2011)
Acqua P. Monza - Piacenza 3 - 2 (25-19, 25-18, 21-25, 21-25, 15-13)
M: Luciano De Cecco 4

CMC Ravenna - Padova 2 - 3 (19-25, 22-25, 25-18, 25-23, 13-15)
R: Rodrigo Quiroga 5

Casa Modena - San Giustino 3-2 (25-18, 23-25, 18-25, 25-12, 15-13)  
SG: Sebastián Creus 9 , Facu Conte (终止了合同)


FECHA 7 (05/11/2011)
Itas Diatec Trentino - CMC Ravenna 3-0 (25-21, 25-16, 25-21)  
R: Rodrigo Quiroga 7

San Giustino - Lannutti Cuneo 1-3 (20-25, 19-25, 25-19, 18-25)
SG: Facundo Conte 12 , Sebastián Creus 10

Acqua Paradiso Monza - Sisley Belluno 0-3 (15-25, 20-25, 19-25)
M: Luciano De Cecco 3


FECHA 6 (30/10/2011)
Verona - Acqua Paradiso Monza 2-3 (25-23, 21-25, 25-14, 17-25, 10-15)  
M: Luciano De Cecco 5

San Giustino - M. Roma Volley 0-3 (18-25, 15-25, 20-25)  
SG: Facundo Conte 9 , Sebastián Creus 4

Lannutti Cuneo - CMC Ravenna 3-0 (25-21, 28-26, 25-12)  
R: Rodrigo Quiroga 1



FECHA 5 (23/10/2011)
Itas Diatec Trentino - San Giustino 3-0 (25-20, 25-17, 25-20)  
SG: Facundo Conte 11 , Sebastián Creus 11

Ravenna - Marmi Lanza Verona 1-3 (21-25, 25-22, 21-25, 23-25)
R: Rodrigo Quiroga 1

Acqua Paradiso Monza - Andreoli Latina 3-1 (26-24, 25-19, 13-25, 25-22)  
M: Luciano De Cecco 2


FECHA 4 (16/10/2011)
Sisley Belluno - San Giustino 3-0 (25-21, 25-22, 26-24)  
SG: Facundo Conte 12 , Sebastián Creus 5

Ravenna - Acqua Paradiso Monza 1-3 (21-25, 29-27, 19-25, 19-25 )  
R: Rodrigo Quiroga 15
M: Luciano De Cecco 3 - MVP


FECHA 3 (09/10/2011)
Casa Modena - Acqua Paradiso Monza 3-0 (25-15, 26-24, 25-19)
M: Luciano De Cecco 2

San Giustino - Ravenna 3-2 (25-20, 21-25, 24-26, 25-21, 15-13)  
SG: Facundo Conte 21 , Sebastián Creus 11
R: Rodrigo Quiroga 14


FECHA 2 (05/10/2011)
Acqua Paradiso Monza - Padova 3-1 (25-17, 25-22, 21-25, 25-23)  
M: Luciano De Cecco 6

Andreoli Latina - San Giustino 2-3 (25-16, 21-25, 22-25, 25-22, 9-15)  
SG: Facundo Conte 19 , Sebastián Creus 11

CMC Ravenna - Casa Modena 0-3 (29-31, 16-25, 20-25)
R: Rodrigo Quiroga 1


FECHA 1 (25/09/2011)
San Giustino - Vibo Valentia 2-3 (25-22, 18-25, 29-27, 21-25, 14-16)
SG: Sebastián Creus 12 , Facundo Conte (在南美)

Itas Diatec Trentino - Acqua Paradiso Monza 3-0 (25-19, 25-22, 25-23)
M: Luciano De Cecco (在南美)

Macerata - CMC Ravenna 3-1 (25-13, 24-26, 25-15, 25-19)
R: Rodrigo Quiroga (在南美)