【波兰队专帖】2012 冲击奥运 // GO POLSKA!!!

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飒飒谷风 发表于 2011-12-6 20:40

                               
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波兰队从世界杯直通奥运，绝对是一件terrible的事情，谁能想到塞、美这届竞争力这么弱。波兰队应该也没想 ...

飒飒太消极了。去了总比去不成好。明年奥运估计还是看俄意波巴（和幡然醒悟的塞）。
不过话又说回来。波兰让人越想越不靠谱。雷同学会抽。B同学没绝对实力。两个副攻也不能委以重任。再加上二传间歇性阻塞。总感觉会经不起大风大浪。很容易就沉闷于海了。
飒飒同学觉得。明年波兰。谁能靠得住些呢。

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一影 发表于 2011-12-6 21:10

                               
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飒飒太消极了。去了总比去不成好。明年奥运估计还是看俄意波巴（和幡然醒悟的塞）。
不过话又说回来。波 ...

我不是消极，是很客观。
世界杯前Kurek脊柱受伤情况不明，Kosok手骨骨折无缘比赛，两场对捷克的比赛，全主力阵容勉强取胜，替补阵容竟然吹黑哨都吹不赢，而对方还仅仅是捷克这种队伍，我怎么可能对他们世界杯抱太大希望呢？
当然，他们自己想的我不知道，所以结局到底是不是terribly就无从而知了。

奥运会这帮人能不能靠得住真难说，目前的想法是蝙蝠侠两边跑最好能跑明白，奥运前一定把接应的手感找到，Kurek只能让他自己长大点懂事点，至于二传……跪求扎哥拯救我坡。

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我以前从来不知道小雷子这么喜欢调戏Nowa。。。

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WL2012波兰队分组是德国 美国和日本
为毛总和美国队分一组啊！
还有可怜的德国队，八成是没机会进决赛圈了……
欧美三队请尽情凌虐日本把{:soso_e120:}

无尽的冬季

wini这是还背着包吗

暴风雪

{:soso_e120:}为毛我每次觉得POL很没希望的时候，同学们表现总是很不错{:soso_e104:}

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飒飒谷风 发表于 2011-12-6 10:40

                               
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世界杯后果然又是一下飞机就要去排排坐。
少了几个人：Jarosz Zygadlo和Ignaczak。
前俩人都跑去意大 ...

Bartman很像领导…………

billychu

刚才看了飒飒提供的波兰对意大利的视频，终于解惑了，15号忧郁二传的波兰语发音应该是日嘎德沃。

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billychu 发表于 2011-12-8 20:03
刚才看了飒飒提供的波兰对意大利的视频，终于解惑了，15号忧郁二传的波兰语发音应该是日嘎德沃。

我听着感觉像贼不像日啊…

billychu

飒飒谷风 发表于 2011-12-8 20:28

                               
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我听着感觉像贼不像日啊…

一开始介绍START LIST的时候，我反复听了好几遍才确定，不得不说，波兰语的语速真的很快。

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billychu 发表于 2011-12-8 20:33

                               
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一开始介绍START LIST的时候，我反复听了好几遍才确定，不得不说，波兰语的语速真的很快。

于是我又去听了对巴西的。
他名字是Lucasz Zygadlo，有点像卢卡师贼噶德罗，你听到“日”可能是sz的类似“师”的尾音直接连他的姓了，“兹”的音没出来。
因为Bartman在世界杯期间做了视频日志，Zygadlo是第六期的特邀嘉宾，Zibi介绍他的时候名和姓分的很开，所以能听清是贼嘎的罗。
我正在传这个视频，等下发给你链接。

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billychu 发表于 2011-12-8 20:33

                               
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一开始介绍START LIST的时候，我反复听了好几遍才确定，不得不说，波兰语的语速真的很快。

http://115.com/file/bhkupxpm#
ZIBI_CAM_odc.6(1).mp4

原本想把整期都传上来，但是今天115不给力，就截了Zibi的一句话，挺清晰的。

billychu

看了，蝙蝠侠页读的是“日噶德沃”啊。

刚才看了一段上海外教社的波兰语教学视频，更加确定了我的判断：http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTkxMDY4OTY=.html

因为ZYGADLO的Z上有个点，这样就读“日”的音，如果不加的话读Z的音，如果加个撇，读类似“西”的音。L加个撇，和WLAZLY一样，读W的音。

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billychu 发表于 2011-12-8 22:25

                               
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看了，蝙蝠侠页读的是“日噶德沃”啊。

刚才看了一段上海外教社的波兰语教学视频，更加确定了我的判断： ...

好吧，之前和波兰球迷交流的时候他们就跟我说我得学点波兰语了。
看来真的有必要提上日程。:)

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欧锦赛后Anastasi的采访，先放个波兰球迷翻译的版本：
（FYI，Anastasi现在已经回意大利了）

This year Poland achieved 3 medals of huge events, but in 2010 we reached just 13th place on WCh and 10th in WL. You made a miracle?

Those were a crazy months, but I wouldn't call it a mircale.

So maybe you had just a fluke?

Don't piss me off! If we would hace achieved one medal, then alright, luck helped us. We have shut mouth of everyone who was taking away our joy of winning.

What is the secret of success?

It lies in the fact that you have players who want to fight for the flag. I also felt that being the coach of white-and-reds is something more than a job. Together with the team, we represent people who have fought in 'Solidarność' and contributed to the collapse of communism. I am proud that I came to a country, which has such a rich history and know how to fight to a finish. Just like my team.

Is it enought to achieve gold medals in London?

It's enough to fight with the best. However I have the impression that we still need to improve a lot of things, to stand on the podium of OG.
Podium is our goal and I can already say today that we're going on OG for medal. However we don't think about gold. I appeal for a little common sense.

The worst is already behind us? World Cup is supposedly tougher than Olympics.

First stage of Olympics can and probably will be easier than killing World Cup, but since the quaterfinal, the fight to the death will start. The secret to success in London will be reaching the quaters with maxiumum exengry, motivation and willingness to fight in a good physical shape. I know this secret and I'll try to use it.

Do you alerady have the dream squad for the tournament in London?

I'm not a fool, I won't say now, that I have the squad for London. I will take those, who will be needed the most and will be in the best disposition. Only the good of the team counts for me, not individuals.

Will you take Mariusz Wlazły?

I'm not closing the door in front of anybody. This is the only right rule.

When the operation London starts?

It has already started, because I had some problems with sleeping lately. I have prepared the initial plan after the match against Brazil. When I sent it to my colleagues before the match against Russia, they said I was crazy. And I just couldn't sleep, I was filled with pride and joy so much. Moreover I still have problems with sleeping, because after coming back to Warsaw, instead of resting, I cleaned the flat...

Some people say that you are the only leader of this team. Do you feel like that?

I don't know if I'm the only leader. Of course I realise that my job is important. I don't think I'm a dominator, because between me and guys there is understanding, we trust ourselves. Besides that, we have Bartek Kurek.

He is the leader?

The most important link of the team, for sure. He didn't play perfectly in Japan, because earlier he was fighting with an injury and generally for a trip. World Cup has shown that white-and-reds can count on him. In addition, he's not avid for indivudual awards. He was fighting for London not for awards for the best spiker or scorer. I'm proud of him.

We are also proud of advancing on OG, but there is still the end of the tournament and this unfortunate defeats against Brazil and Russia.

These volleyball miracles, because it must be called like that, were due to the hardships of the World Cup. Only those who were in Japan, know what I mean. It was a real dudgery.

Match against Italy was weird as well. We were losing 0:2, but managed to win.

Coming to Tokio, we felt a huge pressure. We still could have lost our tickets to London and it seemed to be real. The key was the match against Italy. It started badly for us, throughout first two sets we were not recieving. Then I changed the strategy and used my substitutors. Michał Ruciak started to recieve brilliantly, and with such reception we could face the Italians. Rivals got lost, the were devastated. I knew we will win in tiebreak.

What about Brazil? You were leading 2:0 in sets and 13:8 in 3rd...

Think about what this match meant to us. We needed a point to go on the Olympics. And we started perfectly. The first set was unbelievable! Unfortunately we were gradually losing our energy, concetration. However, I know what was the result of it. Throughout all days we were thinking about advancement only. When it has been already guaranteed, it was difficult to start thinking about something else.

What about tiebreak against Russia? We were leading 14:9!

I cannot be happy, because we didn't take our chances, but let's not forget that in the end we took the 2nd place. Besides that, we fought. I will say like that: we needed the last two matches just to get a point. And that's it.

Or maybe we should hunt our an agreement? With Brazil?

There was no agreement, it's a nonsense! Neither with Italians, nor with Brazillians. What would we give to Brazillians? Advancement? It's ridiculous, because they would advance to London from continental tournament. European teams will have some problems. That's why we were thinking only about ourselves.

You were also thinking only about Poland, if you contributed to Italy's loss, NT of your motherland?

I realise that our victory over Italy isn't beneficial for my homeland. I have read in the Internet the Italian media, and they were interested in Mauro Berruto's team, not Anastasi. I'm not the first anyway. What Giovanni Guidetti, coach of German female NT should say?, who has beaten Italians in semifinal of latest ECh.
That is the way Italian coach's life, who works outside his country is. And I love working in Poland. I hope when we play against Italy again, even on the Olympics, we will win!

You will be the public enemy in your country?

No, because Italians don't have any problem with me. I think they have respect for me, I was playing for my country for many years and later led them to medals as a coach. I deserve respect.

After winning against Italy, there were some scuffles. This won't spoil your realations in Italy?

There was a huge pressure in Japan. I didn't like these whole scuffles at the net. We should have lots of respect for each other, both players and coaches. Unfortunately too many words were said, there were some tension, and then the emotions prevailed.

You are the first coach since years, who having Paweł Zagumny doesn't make him a basic setter of NT.

Łukasz Żygadło has been with me whole season and got to know my strategy of the game. In some moments I decided that he will execute it better. In the following season, when we have more time to work together with Paweł, this barrier will disappear.

What Michał Winiarski's come back brought to this team?

He played brilliantly in this tournament, because he is incredibly creative player. He brings balance to the team. He has unbelievable technique, which distinguishes him from the rest. I think he will do even better, because this season he just came back to his health. But World Cup showed that we have anoter key player for London 2012.

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我勒个去，这个采访真是猛料频出啊。不仅有评价小雷子、扎哥、维尼这些球员的，还有对意大利那场、对巴西那场和对俄罗斯那场的深入解读。还有阴谋论排挤掉意大利、他会不会成为意大利全民公敌一类。这家媒体胆量可真够大的！

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翻译一下：
Q：今年波兰队在三个大赛中收获了3个奖牌，但是去年我们仅得到了世联赛第十和世锦赛第13，你是如何创造这一奇迹的？
A：这确实是很疯狂的几个月，但是我不管他叫奇迹。

Q：所以你就是有些走狗屎运？
A：这说不通！如果我们仅拿到一块奖牌，那么是的很可能是运气的因素，但是我们获得三块奖牌，这已经足以让那些带走我们胜利的快乐的人闭嘴。

Q：成功的秘诀是什么呢？
A：最根本的还是球员想为了国家而奋斗。我感觉为波兰队当主教练不止是一份工作。我和这个队伍在一起，是代表全国人民......(只可意会不可言传的敏感字眼)奋斗。我非常清醒我能来到这个有着悠久历史的并且知道如何奋战到最后的国家。我非常喜欢这支队伍

Q：能在伦敦拿块金牌吗？
A：我们会尽全力去拼搏，但是我认为为了站上领奖台我们还有许多东西需要提高。领奖台是我们的目标而且我可以说我们去奥运会就是为了奖牌去的，但是我们没考虑过金牌，我希望大家意识到这一点。

Q：最困难的部分已经过去了不是吗？世界杯应该比奥运会更困难吧。
A：世界杯的第一阶段可能比世界杯容易一些，但是从四分之一决赛开始，每一场都是生死战，在伦敦取胜的秘诀是进入四分之一决赛时带着最大的能量、动力和意志，用最佳状态去战斗。我知道这一秘诀并且我将履行它。

Q：你已经有了伦敦之行的理想名单了吗？
A：我不是傻子，我才不会透露我的名单。我会带哪些我最需要的球员和状态最好的球员。只有全队的佳绩对我有意义，与个人无关。

Q：你会带着Mariusz Wlazly吗？
A：我不会拒绝任何人，这是最正确的原则。

Q：备战伦敦将从何时开始？
A：已经开始了，我最近已经开始失眠了。我在对阵巴西后就已经有了初步想法，对阵俄罗斯后，当我把我的计划告诉我的同事时他们都说我疯了。现在我就是睡不着，因为我太自豪并且兴奋了。此外我回华沙后没有休息而是打扫公寓，也耽误了我的睡眠……

Q：有人说你是这支队伍唯一的领导者，你是这么想的吗？
A：我不知道是不是这样。当然，我知道我的工作很重要，我不认为我是个统治者，因为我和我的队员们之间充分理解，相互信任。而且我们还有Bartosz Kurek。

Q：他（Bartosz Kurek）是领导者吗？
A：当然，他是全队最重要的纽带。他在日本的表现并不好，因为早先他带伤上阵基本是来日本旅游的。世界杯证明波兰队可以依靠他。此外他并不热衷于个人奖，他是为了去伦敦而比赛，而不是最佳扣球或者最佳得分，对此我为他感到非常骄傲。

Q：我们也为进军奥运感到骄傲，但是仍然有对巴西和俄罗斯的失利。
A：这些就是排球的魅力所在，我们必须这么评价这些结局。世界杯的困难也在于此。只有亲身经历的人明白我的意思。那确实令人郁闷。

Q：对意大利的比赛也很怪异，我们一开始0:2落后，但是最后反败为胜。
A：来东京的时候我们的压力很大，因为我们仍然可能无缘领奖台而且这种可能性很大，这其中的关键就是对意大利这场。一开始我们的发挥不不好，前两局我们几乎没有一传。后来我改变策略用上了替补队员Michal Ruciak，他的一传特别好，有了他的一传保证我们终于可以和意大利队正面交锋。他们输掉了僵持阶段，我就知道决胜局我们赢定了。

Q：那么巴西呢？当时2:0大比分领先，而且第三局一度13:8领先……
A：这要考虑这场比赛对我们的意义何在。我们只要一分就能去奥运会，而且我们开局很完美，第一局真是难以置信！遗憾的是我们渐渐失去了斗志和注意力。但是我知道这个结果意味着什么。整天我们都在只想着晋级奥运的事。当这事敲定了，再把注意力集中于其他事上就难了。

Q：对阵俄罗斯的决胜局呢？当时我们可是14:9领先！
A：我不能说我对这个结果满意，因为我们没有把握住机会。但是还是忘掉结果吧，因为无论如何我们都是第二名。除此之外我们也奋斗过了。我还是坚称一点：我们只需要在后两场中拿到一个积分，就是这样。

Q：是不是我们和巴西有些交易，打默契球？
A：这是非常无理的，根本没有任何协议，不管是和意大利还是巴西。我们能给巴西什么？晋级资格吗？太可笑了，因为他们从洲际预选赛也能晋级。相比之下欧洲队的晋级会非常困难，这也是为什么我们只想着自己晋级的事了。

Q：如果你造成了你的祖国国家队的失利，你也仅仅想着波兰吗？
A：我意识到过我们对意大利的胜利将使我的母队陷入不利境地。我在意大利网媒读到了这一点，但是他们更关注Berruto的队伍而不是Anastasi的队伍。我也不是第一个意大利人，欧锦赛上带领德国队的Guidetti该说些什么，他可是在半决赛里击败了意大利的。
这就是在国外工作的意大利教练的生活。我热爱在波兰的工作，我希望在对意大利的比赛，甚至是奥运会的比赛，我们能够取胜。

Q：你会成为你们国家的公敌吗？
A：不，因为意大利人对我没有意见，我认为他们应该尊重我。我为国家队效力多年，并且曾经执教意大利国家队获得不少奖牌，我应该获得尊重。

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Q：和意大利比赛结束后球场上出现了摩擦(应指Travica和Kubiak的摩擦——译者注)，这会不会影响你们在意大利的关系？
A：在日本所有人都有很大压力，我并不喜欢隔网的摩擦。我们应该互敬互爱，所有球员和教练都是。但是很遗憾他们都多说了两句，局面一下子变得很紧张，双方也都很激动。

Q：你是近些年第一个不让Zagumny打全程主二传的教练。
A：Zygadlo今年跟了我一整年，他知道我的战术意图。有时我认为他会贯彻我的意图贯彻的更好。接下来的赛季我会和Pawel(Pawel是Zagumny的名字)，我们之间的隔阂就能消除了。

Q：Winiarski的回归对这支队伍意味着什么？
A：他这届比赛表现的太出色了，他是个特别有活力的球员，他让这支队伍更加平衡。他的技术令人难以置信，这让他很难有休息机会。如果没有伤病困扰我认为他能做的更好。但是这届世界杯证明了我们在2012伦敦奥运会上有另一个可以倚重的队员。

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Guidetti躺着也中枪。
不过这也能看出，要么Anastasi和Guidetti有私交，要么他有闲工夫看女排。

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Q：备战伦敦将从何时开始？
A：已经开始了，我最近已经开始失眠了。我在对阵巴西后就已经有了初步想法，对阵俄罗斯后，当我把我的计划告诉我的同事时他们都说我疯了。现在我就是睡不着，因为我太自豪并且兴奋了。此外我回华沙后没有休息而是打扫公寓，也耽误了我的睡眠……

这段话。飒是怎么理解的呢？

（Wlazly能回来么？他的那封公开信其实是对自己不公待遇的回应。他的立场还是为了波兰的排球。世界杯波兰登上领奖台的时候。就在想。Wlazly看了。会有多落寞哦。但鉴于波兰今年的世界比赛成绩不错。那些管事的估计也就不会叫他回来了。哎。希望能出现奇迹。妥协。妥协。妥协。）